eQSL must adopt a "fairness doctrine" ... if you want to download a QSL, you MUST acknowledge receipt of the card, i.e., you must QSL! Why? Too many trolls for "greenstamps"!!

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KE4PT Kai Siwiak

I work a station,send eQSL..He downloads my qsl,does not confirm qsl.
I can see my call listed in his eDX100 list.I loose one country.
The other station is no longer an eQSL member.
NOT FAIR.
Nandu..ex--VU7LD

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VU2NKS Nand Kishore

Completely agreed with you Kai!

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73 de Cosimo iw5ell

I really do not understand the problem..... when both stations have uploaded their log details for a particular QSO then the contact is automatically confirmed for both stations (when the details match). You do not need to do anything......

I have uploaded my entire log and upload new QSO's automatically right after I sing off. What is the use of being a member of eQSL and NOT uploading your QSO details...I cannot imagine there hams that silly. It is not a matter of fairness but of common sense.

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VK2GWK Henk Tobbe

Yes we need to do something about the users just archiving or mailing the qsl's they receive and not returning one. I say make everyone ag status and if you mail or archive it automaticlly sends a return qsl.

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W8OSP Jayson L. Tillis

Hi Henk... you are thinking of LoTW where there is an automatic confirm (but no card). In eQSL I can download all of the QSLs sent to my call without reciprocating or even uploading my log books! I've begged by email for the matching QSLs in a few cases, only to be solicited for "green stamps." No more! I now download my cards first, check to make sure they are in my log, and then reply with a card. So, I eQSL ONLY after receiving a card, but always 100%. Note, "bogus" eQSLs are very possible!

My "fairness" plea is to couple the download of a QSL with the simultaneous generation and upload of a reciprocal QSL. A response I got from the eQSL staff about that was that membership dropped off when they tried that! Its all about the "green stamps."

I enjoy receiving confirmations on LoTW for DXCC, but I also enjoy the "instant" eQSL card for my brag wall, just like the LoTW and eQSLs that we've exchanged. Best of both worlds!
73, Kai

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KE4PT Kai Siwiak

Hi Kai,
I understand where you are coming from but it all depends on ones appreciation of QSL's. For me not the card counts but the confirmation for DXCC - so basically I only value LotW confirmations and paper cards for new countries/bands.

My participation in eQSL is purely to support others that have a different view and appreciate my electronic cards. But to be honest... I could not care less about the "cards" I receive and never ever have yet downloaded one - only "viewed" some them and discovered that there are very, very few original cards and most of them look like all the others.

I really cannot understand how people could justify asking for money to just electronicaly confirm a QSO. I do a lot of replies for direct QSL's and nowadays announce on my web site that I expect one IRC or 2 US$ because I cannot afford the cost of stamps which nowadays are barely covered by 2$ (with the US$ being that weak and postage going up every year). So I think asking for green stamps for paper QSL's is OK but not for a computer entry.....

I rejected your "bogus" cards although I would love to work you on SHF :)

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VK2GWK Henk Tobbe

I'm still fairly new to the e-QSLing process.

I make every effort to confirm all QSOs with an E-QSL card. I don't care if the other party is in the system or not, I send it, never-the-less, with a personal note at the bottom. If I do not receive a reply, I am not emotionally crushed. I am, however, delighted when I find one in my "mail box". Especially one with a photo or graphic that the sender uploaded.

And, I will send a modest financial contribution to the site from time-to-time, but not to private individuals. No IRCs or green stamps. Anyway the depressed yankee dollar is not greatly valued these days. Unless it is to be spent on a shopping-spree in New York City.

I don't paper-chase or contest. Not interested in WAS, DXCC or other wallpaper. So that may explain my non-stressed attitude, expectations, and demands.

73
Rich
W2RDD

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W2RDD Rich

Hi Kai,

I follow very similar eQSL policy as you. I reply only to received cards. eQSL is nice, but has
bad design for eQSL confirmation. Therefore my preferred way is LoTW!
73,
Akos

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OM2AK Akos Kalosi

Akos, if everyone were so, nobody would receive eQSL! :)

I send immediately and automatically eQSL at my 73. It's fast and easy.

IMHO would be correct to remove the account to those who fail to respond after many months!

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73 de Cosimo IW5ELL

Being new to this EQSL Concept I was happy to find two EQSL Cards waiting for me when I signed onboard. I have replied to them and will be more than happy to Mail them paper ones, or a rock with my call on it or a belt buckle or anything else like a tube from one of my boat anchors. I like being a HAM and I like people. I think the 10 golden rules of being a good ham should be followed. I will always find the time to reply. If I have the time to tune the rig and throw my Callsign out into the ether ; then I also have the time to manage this aspect of the Hobby here.

73 de Phil KI4EEE

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KI4EEE phil snider

Completely agreed with you Cosimo!

73 de Manfred, DK7ZH

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DK7ZH Manfred Busch

I heartily agree with your comments Phil and put so eloquently

Certainly wish more people would adopt your doctrine in both eQsl and the paper type of confirmation.
Even though I think eQsl is a fantastic medium I still follow up all my contacts with a paper card unless, of course, asked not to.

Still have to say though I would like to see more members with their 'AG' certificate, it'd help my eQSL award applications (or lack thereof!) no end!

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Regards,
Martyn.

Remember, no matter what happens they can't hang you for it!

I send out a eqsl each time I make a contact, I only receive about 25 percent in return. makes no difference to me, but I do wish everyone would do the same.
JIM n9egm

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N9EGM JAMES R. HAMANN