Whaddya think?

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N5UP Dave Morris
Edited by N5UP Dave Morris on Nov 15, 2005 at 07:41 PM

Hi Dave, Trying it here, kinda neat... probably a good thing. Hane not seen any replys to my comments per the eGrid award except you and Tim and of course Rob and I discuss it a couple times a week. Waiting to see comments from the other committee members.

Ken

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KA2LIM Kenneth Kent

Looks good!

Ken - my guess is that you, Rob and I will be the ones who have an active interest in the VHF/UHF awards as we're active on those bands. If we toss some ideas around that we're happy with, I'm sure the others will be ok!

Tim

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G4VXE TIM KIRBY

Hi Tim, Yes you are probably correct. Rob just left my home here and we were discussing the award issue.
1. VHF/UHF eGrid contacts most definately need to be separate from the Satelite grid contacts. Satelite eGrids need their own award right up front from the git-go.
2. We agree with you that there should be a basic eGrid award similar to the eDX basic award, 25 grids sounds good to both of us. and 100 for the eGrid VUCC - mix bands (6 and 2M) with individual band endordements.
3. UHF eGrid award needs to be up'ed to 25 for the eGrid VUCC w/ band endorsement also.

As for the satelite award, I will let Rob take the lead on the recommendations for that as he is very avtive in that area, I just dabble with it a bit. He has some good thoughts on number of grids required ect.ect. and both of us have no problen with working on the verification aspect for those who will apply for the awards.
look for your replys here, I like this fourm site better than yahoo.

Ken

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KA2LIM Kenneth Kent

Testing the Quote feature

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N5UP Dave Morris

Ken,

Great. I suppose my one outstanding issue is whether we should be combining bands for the awards. I'd prefer to see separate awards for each band - I think. But if you guys are content with HF, VHF and UHF, then I'll pipe down

What do you think?

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Tim, G4VXE
eQSL Support Team

Hey All, First post.

Using a mixed band egrid award would make it easier to obtain, However, is easier the way to go?

Almost anyone can get an HF egrid award (no matter the numbers), whereas, only the most dedicated can get one on VHF or UHF. (Eliminating Sat. operations).

I would think that being able to display a VHF EGRID, or UHF EGRID Award in your shack would be an even greater honor than an HF/VHF/UHF EGRID award.

I am not an awards hunter, just my two or three cents.

BTW, nice forum guys.

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N9OEW
http://www.n9oew.com
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I think the question is whether to combine for instance 6m and 2m into a VHF eGrid award, or whether we should have a 2m eGrid and a 6m eGrid award. I don't think having an All-Band eGrid award would be very useful at all.

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73,
Dave Morris, N5UP
Founder and Webmaster

I think the question is whether to combine for instance 6m and 2m into a VHF eGrid award, or whether we should have a 2m eGrid and a 6m eGrid award. I don't think having an All-Band eGrid award would be very useful at all.

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73,
Dave Morris, N5UP


Right on the money Dave. The eGrid for HF as proposed (300 grids) is just fine. As Rob and I discussed last evening, Combine 6m and 2m for the VHF eGrid award and have available individual band VHF eGrid endirsement or award or whatever you prefer to call it,

Ken
KA2LIM

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KA2LIM Kenneth Kent

Way cool fourm guys, nice job. Yes, I will agree on a VHF eGrid award and a UHF eGrid award for "standard" contacts. Do we break it down into separate band with no combining? I would just as soon break it down into single bands myself. I think the award chasers would like it better. As far as satellite is concerned, the VHF satellite award, I feel should be 100 grids and UHF should be 50 grids. Of the 25 grids I have confirmed on UHF, I think 20+- are satellite anyway. When P3E gets in the air late 2006/early 2007, 50 grids on UHF should not be that hard. I dont feel we should break the satellite awards down into bands, that could get messy.
Rob KB2YCC

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KB2YCC Robert Palmer Jr

Nice job guys. I was just wondering how the sub divisions within the grid squares would tie together. I have linked accounts from my location. 3 of them are from the same grid square of EN32, but within that grid I have 2 sub divisions, em and ln (i think it is). Anyway would these all tie into one grid, or how would that work?

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K0CFI Joe Hoepfner

You're talking about the 6 character grid versus the 4 character grid. I think while we allow entry of a 6 character grid square in your Profile, we are going to base the eAwards on only the first 4 character portion of the grid square. So you won't need to worry about it.

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Of course, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong!

73,
Dave Morris, N5UP

This topic was originally created in order to generate some banter to test the forum software. I'm going to either move it into the private Advisory Board - eAwards forum or delete it entirely.

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Of course, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong!

73,
Dave Morris, N5UP

OK after a bad start posting. Here are my thoughts on grid Awards. seperate awards for Satellites, 6 meter, and 2 meter, one award for UHF all freq. 100 grids for the Satellites, 6 meter and 2 meter award, 50 for the 432 up lets stay in sink with the VUCC awards.

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W6GMT BROCK THOMSEN

W6GMT wrote:
lets stay in sink with the VUCC awards.

WHY?
This is not the arrl, This is eQSL.

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KA2LIM Ken Kent

Because the existing eQSL awards are copies of awards by the ARRL or CQ Mag. 100 grids on 6 is not that hard (I have a VUCC for 150 grids) I also have one (150 grids) for satellites again not that hard. Now 2 meters is MUCH harder to get at 100 grids so that might be set at 50 grids.

A starter award 25 grids any band any mode might be in order. Make them too easy and there is no sense of acheavement
73
Brock

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W6GMT BROCK THOMSEN

Brock, I understand what you are saying, however, the trouble we have is getting people to get their AG status so the contact counts for the award. Myself, I have well over the needed contacts and cards but most of them do not have AG status, especially if you have multiple accounts and only one is authenticity guaranteed (hint hint). We plan on splitting up the satellite contacts from the "normal" ones to make it fair for everyone and the satellite awards will come soon after the VHF/UHF. We will get there.

Rob KB2YCC

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KB2YCC Robert Palmer Jr

We shouldn't forget that the introduction of these awards will probably prompt VHF types to get AG status, in the same way that the HF awards have encouraged many users to get their account AGed.

So I'm quite happy to set reasonably challenging targets.

FWIW!

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Tim, G4VXE

You are right about the low number of from eQSL AG members. but I also think that the number will go up when the awards are in place I have well over 2000 contacts uploaded at this time. most for 6 meters and the birds. I have over 200 grids on 6 and the birds confirmmed with paper QSL cards. lest the 50 in CA or MN. on eQSL.

Note I thought all 3 active accounts under W6GMT (KG6GMT/0 and W6GMT/0) were all authenticity guarnteed ????. the old KG6GMT account is not attached because it has problems as there are contacts from both QTHs under it. not sure how to handle that. But at the time it was AG

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W6GMT BROCK THOMSEN

Brock,

As regards your accounts and AG status - attached accounts don't automatically gain AG status. We could argue that they should, but the software doesn't do that yet.

Just upload your license image to the Authenticity page for any of the accounts that don't have AG status and Rich or I will make sure that it gets approved as soon as possible.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Tim, G4VXE
Edited by G4VXE TIM KIRBY on Nov 21, 2005 at 07:30 AM