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KC4TVZ Todd Burnette
Posts: 2
Joined: Nov 23, 2004




Posted: Feb 12, 2013 07:34 PM          Msg. 1 of 17
It has just been added to manually confirm a eQSL users must type in the time. It used to be automatically filled in. Can I set mine back? I mean this is silly, we are all grown adults and if someone is going to cheat, they are going to cheat! typing in the time is not going to stop them!

73 KC4TVZ Todd

KC4TVZ Todd Burnette

K0IVK Joe Hill
Posts: 7
Joined: Jun 18, 2004



Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:05 PM          Msg. 2 of 17
I agree, this is the LAST straw. eQSL is already pretty much a waste of time. I have been using it for decades and still less that 100 countries while I've only been on LoTW 3 1/2 years and have nearly 300 countries.
DON'T MAKE THE PROCESS HARDER

K0IVK Joe Hill

G3YMC Dave Sergeant
Posts: 31
Joined: Jan 1, 2003




Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:47 AM          Msg. 3 of 17
Yes, very annoying. The great red box telling me to check it is in the log before clicking is maybe a reminder to some. In this case I had indeed just checked my log, checked the time in that agreed with what the eqsl said, then clicked the button. Then took another two clicks to get the time in the right format. Ughhh...

73 Dave G3YMC

G3YMC Dave Sergeant

VA3KAB David Bell
Posts: 1056
Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Feb 16, 2013 12:25 PM          Msg. 4 of 17
You should be uploading your QSOs from your logging program. When you do it that way all eQSLs in your inbox that match an eQSL from your outbox are already matched, any left with the confirm or reject options are ones that are not in your log, and most of them should probably be rejected.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

G3YMC Dave Sergeant
Posts: 31
Joined: Jan 1, 2003




Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:17 AM          Msg. 5 of 17
I update periodically from my computer log, usually after a major contest. The ones that show unmatched are usually recent ones that have not been uploaded yet, they are good QSOs. If they were not in my log I would have already clicked the red reject button. This extra step is superfluous, the correct time is already shown.
73 Dave G3YMC

G3YMC Dave Sergeant

VA3KAB David Bell
Posts: 1056
Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Feb 18, 2013 12:36 PM          Msg. 6 of 17
But if you just upload your log on a more regular basis you should never need to manually confirm a QSO. I upload mine on a daily basis, after I have finished operating for the day. With the software I'm using HRD/DM780, I can also configure it to upload in realtime; upload the QSO as soon as I enter it in the log.

The idea is not to prevent someone from manually confirming a QSO, which is why the time is shown. The idea is to slow people down a little, make them aware of what they are doing. We have *way* too many users that just go and press that manual confirm button without doing any checks. Some users think that they are supposed to confirm anything they receive, other users don't care. And yes, we know for a fact this happens.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

KN4GE John H. Floyd III
Posts: 3
Joined: Feb 4, 2001



Posted: Feb 24, 2013 06:49 PM          Msg. 7 of 17
I use eqsl because it is convenient. The big red box is not convenient. Can I sign a waiver saying I promise to never buy an award and make the red box go away?

KN4GE John H. Floyd III

XV2PS Pierre Siquet
Posts: 2
Joined: Apr 2, 2005



Posted: Feb 25, 2013 09:25 AM          Msg. 8 of 17
Totally driving me away. Since I saw that I only approved one eqsl then stopped. I used to just check the Call Signs and the band to accept. I do not and do not yet consider uploading a digital. So this, as above said, is a bit of a hassle and a bit of childish. Seems more secured than my credit cards, but for what value?
Never checked LOTW, but I will try this week to have a look. So, EQSL, up to you to see you want to remain attractive.

XV2PS Pierre Siquet

XV2PS Pierre Siquet
Posts: 2
Joined: Apr 2, 2005



Posted: Feb 25, 2013 10:01 AM          Msg. 9 of 17
By the way, why not just expel those bending the rules? Or have a few spot checks than all.?

XV2PS Pierre Siquet

W7TX David Rakos
Posts: 3
Joined: Jun 19, 2010



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 04:31 PM          Msg. 10 of 17
This time stamp addition needs to go away or I am just going to start refusing those cards. They usually are dx with a slash prefix and they should count as a match. Make it an option to turn on or off as I do check my log before I confirm.

W7TX David Rakos

VA3KAB David Bell
Posts: 1056
Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 04:38 PM          Msg. 11 of 17
Please clarify "They usually are dx with a slash prefix and they should count as a match"

Are you saying they are in your log with the slash prefix but the eQSL you are manually confirming does not have the slash?

73, Dave - VA3KAB

W7TX David Rakos
Posts: 3
Joined: Jun 19, 2010



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 06:46 PM          Msg. 12 of 17
Some operate portable with their call and add a slash prefix. This may not match if the qso is recorded without the slash prefix. Just make the time verify optional and the problem is solved. LoTW already has a higher return rate for me and your making eQSL cumbersome to use.

W7TX David Rakos

VA3KAB David Bell
Posts: 1056
Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 08:30 PM          Msg. 13 of 17
In the case you describe you should be rejecting that eQSL, not manually confirming it.

QTH information comes from a users profile. If I am working portable in Florida I might sign my QSOs as W4/VA3KAB. Any eQSLs I send from my W4/VA3KAB account will have USA as the country and Florida as the state.

If you worked me as W4/VA3KAB but received an eQSL from VA3KAB, that QSO should be rejected, because it will have Canada as the country; your QSO was with a station in Florida, USA, not a station in Ontario, Canada.

Make sense?


73, Dave - VA3KAB
Edited by VA3KAB David Bell on Mar 4, 2013 at 08:31 PM

W7TX David Rakos
Posts: 3
Joined: Jun 19, 2010



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 09:49 PM          Msg. 14 of 17
No, I still worked that station. I am wasting my time here and will no longer upload to eqsl.

W7TX David Rakos

VA3KAB David Bell
Posts: 1056
Joined: Jan 25, 2006



Posted: Mar 4, 2013 10:11 PM          Msg. 15 of 17
No you didn't, you worked a station in Florida, USA, not a station in Ontario, Canada, but if you don't understand that then we are better off without your uploads.

73, Dave - VA3KAB

VE3OIJ P. Darin Cowan
Posts: 186
Joined: Jul 9, 2006


Posted: Mar 25, 2013 12:30 AM          Msg. 16 of 17
Wouldn't LOTW also reject the QSO as described? People are whining on eQSL, but VA3KAB is right. If LOTW would confirm such a contact, then LOTW is simply wrong.

73 de
VE3OIJ Darin Cowan

M0TPS Daz
Posts: 2
Joined: May 20, 2010



Posted: Mar 30, 2013 08:57 AM          Msg. 17 of 17
My situation is ...

1. I don't want or need any awards.

2. I only respond to eqsl's received.

If you have proof of wrong doings ban them, don't make the rest of us suffer by increasing our work load and making us feel mistrusted.

Please remove the red box.

vy 73 all de Daz

M0TPS Daz