I've seen this before. This is actually a licensed ham and he's used his ham eQSL account to request a "SWL" confirmation. If I do that, I've managed to confirm KH6 for him though we've never worked.

Does anyone think that this is a problem? Given the capabilities of eQSL, it seems rather trivial to actually ring-fence SWL confirmations in such a way that they don't become credit with non-existent QSOs.

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KH6CW Kona Contest Club

Hi,

If he is using his normal account, he really gets a credit easily ! Yes, I think it's a problem
As far as I'm concerned, I have two distinct EQSL accounts : F6DKQ and SWL/F6DKQ....and a few others...
I often use my SWL account to send reports on bands where I'm not allowed here to Xmit, 60M JT65A for instance. SWL/F6DKQ has been set as a SWL acccount, when I send a swl report , it will never count as a real QSO, I hope so or else I would trespass my licence rights....hi

"ring-fence SWL confirmations" ??? You can't prevent someone from sending you a fraudulous eqsl but you can reject it

73, Guy F6DKQ

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F6DKQ Guy FALCOZ

Hello,
I too have this problem with a French ham using his ham account to send me SWL reports.
I feel this is a dangerous thing allowing hams to receive QSLs of a QSO they never had but just generated a SWL report for.
Seems the software needs to be changed where SWL reports are just that not a QSO confirmation !!!
Thanks, Joe k0ivk

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K0IVK Joe Hill

SWL reports need to come from an SWL account, not a ham account. If a ham wants to send SWL reports, he needs to create an SWL account. See my other reply to you on this please.

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73, Dave - VA3KAB

Today I received an eQSL card from a licensed HAM from Germany confirming that he "heard ur 2-way QSO with XXXXX" and gave correct time/date of that QSO, which has been confirmed on eQSL.cc and LoTW. Didn't know how to address this until I saw a suggestion in the forums for IDing the log entry in my logging program as a SWL, by simply entering "SWL" in the signal report box before sending confirmation. That way I know the entry wasn't a 2-way QSO.

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KM4HVE Jerry W. Morris

The problem with doing that is the system here looks at the account type (HAM or SWL) to determine if it is an SWL report or a 2-way QSO.

When you look at the cards you receive, eQSLs from SWL accounts will say "Confirming SWL reception", cards from HAM accounts will say "This confirms our 2-way QSO".

If a ham wants to send an SWL report he should create an SWL account to do that. An SWL report from a ham account should be rejected, if you confirm it that means you are giving him credit for a QSO that did not happen.

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73, Dave - VA3KAB

I also just received such a request from Germany. First, I do not even know how to confirm it, and, secondly, you recommend that I do not. I have informed the German station regarding your suggestion of creating an SWL account. Perhaps then there will be some box to click on for confirmation? Or what?

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SA7EME Everett Ellestad

If it is an SWL report from a HAM account then yes, you should not confirm it.

To manually confirm an eQSL all you need do is press the green checkmark beside the entry.

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73, Dave - VA3KAB

Thanks....OK.... but you seem to be contradicting what you said earlier??

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SA7EME Everett Ellestad

How so?

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73, Dave - VA3KAB

Oops, sorry, I mixed up your reply with the reply from eQSL support, which said the following ---

"When a user sets the SWL/HAM checkbox in his MY PROFILE to SWL, it automatically forces all incoming and outgoing cards to say 'Confirming SWL Reception' instead of the usual 'This Confirms Our 2-Way QSO'.

When you send an eQSL or reply to a SWL, it will automatically put the correct wording into the card.

So you can reply/confirm as normal without worry. "

Which, is rather confusing.

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SA7EME Everett Ellestad

Ok,

Basically what that is saying is that you can tell if the eQSL is coming from a HAM account or an SWL account by pressing the "DISPLAY" button beside the entry in your inbox/archive to display the actual eQSL card.

When you do that you see the QSO details at the bottom of the card.

An eQSL from a HAM account will say "This confirms our 2-way QSO"

An eQSL from an SWL account will say "Confirming SWL Reception"

This text is placed on the card automatically by the software, depending on the type of account (HAM or SWL)

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73, Dave - VA3KAB

I have gotten to the point where I just do not confirm SWL any more. If I operated a beacon I might do otherwise. It is to easy for a SWL operator to just go to something like DxSummit and go card hunting. He can get both calls a time and a frequency.

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KG5FII RANDAL HALLUM

Randal: ...and why an SWL should go to a DX cluster to get infos related to a QSO?
He can lie to others but not with himself.

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